Minutes of the second meeting in the Committee (EDBU/EBU) the 16th -17th  of November 2002

Location: Almåsa Kursgård, Sweden.

 

Present:

Ove Bejnsnap, chairperson, Denmark

Geir Jensen, Norway

Tiina Nummi-Södergren, Sweden

Serguei Sirotkine, Russia

 

Observers:

Stig Ohlson, Sweden

Mona-Britt Broberg, Sweden

Lennart Nolte, Sweden

 

Rapporteur: Ilse Bellamy

 

 

Agenda

 

  1. Welcome

 

  1. Approval of the agenda

 

  1. Comments to the minutes of the meeting the 15th-16th of December 2001

 

  1. Mutual briefing
    1. Decisions made by EDBU and EBU deafblindcommission regarding th ejoint arrangement next year.
    2. Election of chairperson for the committee for a two-year period.

 

  1. Program draft for the 5th EBU deafblindconference and the founding of  EDBU the 18th-23rd of October 2003

 

    1. Distribution of responsibilities
    2. Finances
    3. PR

 

  1. Any other business

 

  1. Next meeting

 

Item 1 - Welcome

As arranged with Ove Bejsnap, Tiina Nummi-Södergren welcomed everyone to Almåsa Kursgård, and the meeting was hereby opened. Sweden was pleased at hosting this meeting.

Lennart Nolte, chairperson of the Swedish Association of the Blind, would be arriving in the afternoon and participate at dinner. She mentioned, that in Sweden the blind assocoation co-operated with FSDB, and she had therefore invited Stig Ohlson and Mona-Britt Broberg, so they follow all the issues during this meeting , which we here in Sweden will be working on with for the benefit of the joint arrangement next year.

Ove Bejsnap thanked Tiina Nummi-Södergren for the warm welcome. He asked whether everyone’s communication functioned. Geir Jensen explained , that his interpreters were not competent at English and therefore wished the meeting to be carried out in Scandinavian languages. The Russians accepted this, as the interpreter of Serguei Sirotkine was capable at understanding Norweigian and Swedish. It was hereby decided that the language of today and tomorrow would be Scandinavian.

 

For the sake of interpreters a short presentation of each participant was made.

 

Item 2 - Approval of the agenda

For the sake of the minutes, Ove Bejsnap wanted to know what roles Stig Ohlson and Mona-Britt Broberg had during the meeting.

Tiina Nummi-Södergren informed that they were merely observers.

Stig Ohlson asked, if he and Mona-Britt Broberg could express opinions during the meeting and come with suggewstions or comments?

Ove Bejsnap said, that he found it okay that Stig Ohlson and Mona-Britt Broberg could express themselves during the meeting.

 

Geir Jensen informed that we should follow the guidelines of the committee, and herein it was informed who should invite others to the meetings. He agreed with Ove Bejsnap, but thought that we should follow the guidelines for the committee in the future and thereby the four committee members should agree to who should be invited.

Serguei Sirotkine and Tiina Nummi-Södergren agreed with Geir Jensen. Tiina Nummi-Södergren explained that she previously had sent out a mail to the committee and suggested observers and as she did not receive any comments, she took this as an acceptance.

 

The committee dicided that Stig Ohlson and Mona-Britt Broberg could express themselves during the meeting.

 

Serguei Sirotkine drew attention to the decision that the guidelines for the work of the committee should be sent out for approval in the EBU and the EDBU interim board

He asked if these guidelines had been sent and what the two boards had answered.

Ove Bejsnap thought, that Serguei Sirotkine’s question should be put under item no. 4.

Serguei Sirotkine wanted to suggest another item for the agenda, which was to be named “approval of the guidelines for the committee”.

 

The committee agreed to add an item under item 4 b dealing with “Election of chairperson for the committee for a two-year period”.

 

Hereby the agenda was approved with an adding of item 4 b “Election of chairperson for the committee for a two-year period”.

 

Item 3 - Comments to the minutes of the committee meeting the 15th-16th of December 2001.

Ove Bejsnap called for any comments to the minutes.

 

Tiina Nummi-Södergren was satisfied with the fact that the minutes were forwarded quickly after the meeting and found it correctly reported. It was of great help for her, when she followingly had to inform the board of EBU.

 

There were no other comments and Ove Bejsnap concluded the minutes to be approved.

 

Item 4 - Mutual briefing

 

  1. Decisions made in EDBU and EBU regarding the joint arrangement next year.

Ove Bejsnap mentioned that the committee at their meeting last year agreed to send out the guidelines for the work of the committee for adoption in EBU and EDBU. Both boards have approved the guidelines for the committee, which was sent out.

 

Serguei Sirotkine wished to receive minuted from the EBU and EDBU meetings.

 

Tiina Nummi-Södergren would see to it that Serguei Sirotkine would receive minutes from the EBU board.

 

Ove Bejsnap recommended, that mutual briefing in the future should be done by sending minutes from relevant meetings in EBU and EDBU which deals with activities regarding the committee.

 

This everyone agreed to.

 

Geir Jensen suggested that the committee should send a letter to the EDBU board and the EBU board with a suggestion that minutes should be sent to the committee members.

This suggestion was agreed to.

 

Ove Bejsnap hereafter briefed, that secretariat of EDBU had reserved rooms and conference rooms at Fuglsangcentret in Fredericia. Furthermore the board of EDBU have discussed the draft of the constitution for EDBU at their meeting in August this year. It was decided that Geir Jensen and Ove Bejsnap should find a solution to the problems raised at the meeting.

 

EDBU usually holds their board meeting in August, but this year it was decided, because of the official founding of EDBU, to hold a meeting in March 2003, to discuss the last preparation before the founding in October 2003.

 

Stig Ohlson said that it was good EDBU worked with the constitution as the current draft would exclude many deafblind to become full members.

For example, Spain is completely dependent on support from ONCE, the blind organization in Spain. WFDB have been told by ONCE that they want to be a member of WFDB and not deafblind in Spain. Deafblind can become members of WFDB, but as it looks today, the same people cannot become members of EDBU.

 

Geir Jensen thanked Ove Bejsnap for th egood briefing regarding the decisions made by EDBU. He also thanked Stig Ohlson for his comments. Stig Ohlson can set his mind at rest regarding the suggestion for the constitution which will be presented at the founding congress next year, as it will take into account the points of view that have appeared at the meeting. An improvement of the article on membership will be made. The work will hopefully be finished at the end of November or the beginning of December. Hereafter Ove Bejsnap will be contacted for a closer examination of the constitution. At the end there will be a somewhat well suggestion for the constitution which the greatest possible number can be satisfied with. There will be worked out a good explanation to the articles in the constitution.

 

Ove Bejsnap added that he understood Stig Ohlson’s worries and that he realised the situation for deafblind people in Europe and their different kinds of organization which the constitution should take into consideration.

 

Geir Jensen informed that FNDB, which is the oldest deafblind association within the Nordic countries, cannot become a member of WFDB as their constitution has been passed. This is thought-provoking.

Therefore, European conditions will be taken into consideration in the constitution of EDBU.

 

Stig Ohlson mentioned that nothing prevents FNDB to become a member of WFDB. If there are several deafblind organizations in one country, all can become members. On the other hand, each country has one national representative entitled to vote at the general assembly.

Organizations in the same country therefore have to co-operate regarding this representation.

 

Ove Bejsnap thought, that it is not a task for EDBU to interfere in national affairs and therefore make certain that the constitution under no circumstances expresses interference.

 

Geir Jensen understood, that a membership of an association at the same time meant a right to vote and a right to speak at the general assembly, and this was not the case in WFDB. FNDB could therefore only become an associated member of WFDB.

 

Ove Bejsnap closed the exchange of opinions and requested the meeting to keep to the agenda.

 

Serguei Sirotkine informed that EBU and EBU deafblindcommission held a meeting at the end of June and the beginning of July in Italy. There, different themes for the 5th deafblind conference in Denmark, was discussed, and it was decided to add a few extra themes to the existing. A strategi for the conference was also descussed.

The goal of the conference should be to give a strong result which could have an effect on all of Europe both politically and socially.

All talks should have a global element and hereby ensure a illustration of deafblind people’s problems both nationally and internationally.

Serguei Sirotkine called for a confirmation from the committee on the selection of strategy. Serguei Sirotkine would ensure that all countries were informed about this strategy and thereby actively being able to work for a good result.

 

The three main themes at the conference will be:

 

a. ”Basic needs of deafblind people under conditions of modern society”

b. The rights of deafblind people and responsibility of the state. (Bengt Lingvist anbefales at tale om dette tema)

c.      Disability problems of deafblind people in modern society.

 

Other themes are closely related to these main themes and are named sub themes.

 

Serguei Sirotkine informed that the deafblind commission had agreed to the following recommendation regarding the deafblind conference:

·        The conference shall be open to the public and the media.

·        All information regarding the conference and resolutions shall be distributed to all national governments and authorities.

·        A conference structure which could consist of either plenary sessions, where the main themes are discussed, and the sub themes should be discussed in workshops (this is the traditionel structure) or otherwise talks in plenary sessions with subsequent discussions in the house. The latter option means the number af talks should be reduced and each lecturer shall have more time for his talk.

·        The lecturer’s should be chosen carefully and be competent.

·        Furthermore the talk should end by the lecturer suggesting a solution for the problems which they raise in their talk.

·        Resolution shall be worked out, for use in the future work in the deafblind organizations.

 

Ove Bejsnap thanked Serguei Sirotkine for his comprehensive information. The members of the deafblind commission have carried out a fine piece of work.

 

Tiina Nummi-Södergren informed that the EBU board discussed these issues at their meeting in London in June 2002. At that meeting she informed about the distribution of responsibilities in connection with the joint arrangement next year. The EBU board had furthermore read the minutes of the committee meeting from the 15th-16th of December 2001.

EBU realised that they have a key role in regards to creating interest from the member organizations with the purpose of supporting deafblind people’s participation. Both regarding information about the event as to financial support for participation.

The structure of EBU is so, that the membership fee is set depending on each country’s financial level. Therefore there is a clear opinion has been stated, that as far as it is possible for the wealthy membership countries to help the less wealthy, they should. Therefore it is important to have information regarding the conferencen sent out this autumn.

 

Ove Bejsnap expressed great pleasure that EBU was so positive regarding the joint arrangement, and the optimism rises as the chairperson, John Wall, is also engaged in the subject.

 

Serguei Sirotkine suggested that a letter also should be sent to the deaf organizations requesting for their support for the arrangement, so deafblind representatives could have the possibility to participate in the conference.

 

Ove Bejsnap thanked Serguei Sirotkine. The chairperson for the European Union of the Deaf, EUD, is Danish, Knud Søndergaard. Knud Søndergaard has also shown interest for our work. Besides that EDF has followed our work and shown great interest in deafblind people establishing an independent European organization.

 

Tiina Nummi-Södergren added that the chairman of EDF is Greek and is also in the board of EBU. He has therefore already informed several organizations about the founding and the conference.

 

Tiina Nummi-Södergren asked about the co-operation with the Danish Association of the Blind and in particular regarding EU financing of the conference.

Ove Bejsnap informed that so far he had held three meetings with the Danish Association of the Blind, DBS, and among other things, also whether DBS could support the conference and how we should apply for funds in EU.

Our contact in DBS is John Heilbrunn.

 

Ove Bejsnap asked if Stig Ohlson would have the floor.

Stig Ohlson informed that WFDB is arranging a congress in 2005. The conference in Colombia and last year in New Zealand cost over $100.000 each. WFDB can therefore not contribute with money for the European arrangement next year, but on the other hand we can help informing about the arrangement. We have almost finished building up an electronic newspaper on the internet and would like to reserve a sertain place where EDBU can inform about their work.

You should not forget the wealthy deafblind organizations. You can also approch FSDB and the other Nordic organizations and suggest that they each sponser one paticipant from a less wealthy country.

 

Ove Bejsnap thanked Stig Ohlson and agreed that information is important and we will make use of the offer that WFDB vi atheir electronic newspaper can inform about EDBU and the deafblind conference.

 

Mona-Britt Broberg was not so certain that FSDB was so wealthy at the moment, but naturally thay were better off than many others. The government grant has been cut down. FSDB will investigate if it is possible to contribute to a joint arrangement one way or the other. The next board meeting is the 15th of December where Mona-Britt Broberg will raise this question.

She also drew attention to the funds within the year of disabled next year.

Maybe it would be possible to have other organizations apply on behalf of EDBU.

 

Geir Jensen noted that the interim board of EDBU has come far with this work. We started in Tammerfors in 1999 without any finances, and step by step we have Jmoved forward and had good contacts and support from EBU. On eof the results of the co-operation with EBU have been the establishment of this committee, which we are in today.

We have even achived agreeing to planning and carrying out a joint arrangement. He uttered great satisfaction with the work so far. Geir Jensen thanked Ove Bejsnap and the secretariat in Denmark for their effort.

 

The mutual briefing was hereby accepted and the item finished.

 

b.      Election of chairperson for the committee for a two-year period.

Ove Bejsnap stated that the guidelines for the Committee have been adopted by the EDBU interim board and by the EBU board.

 

Hereafter it came round to the election of chairperson for the Committee fo rthe next two years.

 

Serguei Sirotkine suggested Ove Bejsnap as the chairperson for the Committee until 2004.

 

Geir Jensen supported Serguei Sirotkine’s suggestion.

Tiina Nummi-Södergren also supprted Serguei Sirotkine’s suggestion.

 

Ove Bejsnap thanked for the trust and would undertake the task, but directed the attention to the fact that the founding of EDBU in 2003 can mean consisting of a different board after the founding.

 

The Committee agreed to elect Ove Bejsnap as the chairperson for the Committee with the adding that the president of EDBU after the founding in 2003 will take over the chairmanship of the Committee.

 

Serguei Sirotkine recommended that the guidelines for the Committee be adjusted so thay take into consideration the board elections in EDBU and EBU.

The Committee did not find that necessary, as long as there in these minutes of the meeting today, draw attention to the fact that in the future considerations should be made regarding board elections and also selecting representatives for the Committee. Change in the guidelines we cannot do, as it is the responsibility of the board of EDBU and EBU.

 

Item 5 - Program draft for the 5th deafblind conference and the founding of EDBU 18th-23rd of Ectober 2003.

 

a.      Distribution of responsibilities.

 

As the arrangement starts with the EBU deafblind conference, it is natural that Serguei Sirotkine opens this arrangement.

 

Between the two events an excursion is planned and the Association of the Danish Deafblind would like to take responsibility of this task.

 

The opening of the founding congress is carried out by the temporary chairperson for the interim board in EDBU, Ove Bejsnap.

 

Ove Bejsnap mentioned that as it is the Association of the Danish Deafblind that is hosting the arrangement, it is also FDDB who is responsible for reserving rooms  and administering the finances in connection with the arrangement. FDDB has chosen Ilse Bellamy as the co-ordinator for this work.

 

Geir Jensen found Ove Bejsnap’s comments good nad agreed to his points of view. Geir Jensen asked, if the Danish Blind Association has any areas of responsibility? Furthermore Ove Bejsnap mentioned that Serguei Sirotkine is responsible for the opening of the conference, but should the president of EBU and EUD not be present?

 

Ove Bejsnap answered that the Danish Blind Association is co-operating with the EBU deafblind commission regarding the planning of the 5th deafblind conference. It should be the decision of Serguei Sirotkine to determine who he will invite for the opening ceremony.

In connection with the opening of the EDBU congress Ove Bejsnap has thought of inviting the president of WFDB, EBU, EUD and EDF.

 

Geir Jensen thanked for the answer.

 

b.      Finances.

Ove Bejsnap informed that  the Danish Blind Association and the Association of the Danish Deafblind each have donated 50.000 DKK. So there is a total of  100.000 DKK in contribution to the arrangement.

 

Furthermore a letter has been sent to the chairperson of EBU, John Wall, to ask for support for the joint arrangement. John Wall has replied positively, that EBU will make an effort so that the wealthy member countries in EBU will be requested to support the participation of deafblind people.

 

Ove Bejsnap requested Ilse Bellamy to go through the budget and inform about the fundraising work.

 

Tiina Nummi-Södergren also thought that EBU should send a letter to the member countries with an explaination about the arrangement and a list of the persons who are not capable of covering their own expenses for participation. This would leave a strong signal to the member countries, when the board of EBU and the chairpaerson, John Wall, show that they supprt the cause.

 

Ilse Bellamy began with looking through the budget which FDDB has worked out so far for the arrangement.

 

The budget has been set for the following number of participants:

 

14 from from Denmark and 15 from the other European countries. This number is most likely not realistic as more will come , but it will be the number we will try to raise money for.

All in all for lecturers, excursion, reception, participant fee, and so on, there are expenses total of DKK 368.000. Deducting grants already received and reimbursements fra Danish minicipalities for guide expenses, we will reach an expanse of DKK 188.000.

 

Ilse Bellamy could inform that she in co-operation with John Heilbrunn has investigated the possibility of applying for EU funds, also funds earmarked for activities in connection with the European Year of Disability. The conclusion of that work was that fundraising within the EU takes a lot of resources and therefore we have to admit that we do not have those resources. Instead we have to put our trust in the belief that the wealthy member countries in EBU and EDBU will be obliging to contributing to the participation of deafblind people.

 

From this moment on in the meeting the chairperson of the Swedish Association of the Blind, Lennart Nolte, participated, and Ove Bejsnap welcomed him.

 

Serguei Sirotkine told that EBU wishes to see a budget of the expenses for the joint arrangement, and recommended that Ove Bejsnap would work this out. Furthermore the budget should be sent to the European deaf organization via EUD.

 

Ove Bejsnap informed that EUD is not a wealthy  organization.

 

Ilse Bellamy added that a budget has not been sent forward to EBU. To begin with, it was important to know the attitude of EBU to support the deafblind participants. Furthermore we have been in contact with the chairperson of EUD, Knud Søndergaard, who gave some advise on fundraising within the EU. Among other things, he mentioned it was important to be able to present an organization with members from the EU countries.

Ilse Bellamy suggested that the Committee should be creative and put down a strategy for how the budget we present in connection to applying for funds, should look like. Travel expenses for the participants have not been set on the budget.

 

Tiina Nummi-Södergren mentioned that EBU would like a clarification on approximately how many would participate in theh joint arrangement.

It is also important that we state how we imagine the expenses to be covered.

 

Ilse Bellamy could inform that we have to pay full price for the lodging at the conference center of the Danish Blind Association.

 

Geir Jensen informed that FNDB cannot contribute with grants for the arrangement, but that FNDB would like to offer other secretary assistance for the work. FNDB har prior contributed with DKK 15.000 for the EDBU work.

 

Regarding travel expenses, Stig Ohlson informed that monay can be saved, if one travels during the weekend.

 

Ilse Bellamy informed that the joint arrangement will start Saturday the 18th of October and end after breakfast Thursday the 23rd of October. Friday the 17th of October, 17 rooms have been reserved for those who need to arrive on the Friday to save travel expenses.

 

Lennart Nolte was given the floor before the meeting was finished prior to dinner.

He informed that the Swedish Blind Association during the years has had a good co-operation with FSDB, and therefore we have had a lot of knowledge of the situation of deafblind people and the power that exists in people who wishes to do something. The work that FSDB and deafblind people around the world are carrying out, is an example to what people can achive when they have will. It is a pleasure to see that deafblind have established their international organization and a pleasure that deafblind people in Europe will have their own organization next year. It is positive development and it is also positive that the blind organizations in Europe will support this work. Lennart Nolte finished by wishing the Committee good luck with their part of the work. He was convinced that a great number of people will gather in Denmark next year and go through the founding meeting of EDBU. He wished everyone a good saty at Almåsa. Lennart Nolte did not participate in the rest of the meeting.

 

c.      PR

Ove Bejsnap suggested that a closer discussion of the programme and its contents be taken under this item. All agreed to this.

 

The draft for a time schedule was discussed as the first.

Serguei Sirotkine wished to know the attitude of the Committee regarding the practical completion of the deafblind conference. Should the traditional way of talks with subsequent workshops be chosen, or talk and discussion all in plenary sessions?

 

Ove Bejsnap thought well of the traditional way with plenary talks and workshops.

 

Stig Ohlson asked if he could be informed of the time division between the conference and the founding of EDBU.

 

Ove Bejsnap answered that the conference will be carried out the 18th-19th of October, the excursion the 20th of October, hereafter the founding congress the 21st and 22nd of October, and departure the 23rd of October.

 

Stig Ohlson asked if there is registration the 18th of October in the morning.

Ilse Bellamy answered that the programme has been planning so registration will start at from 11 am. Hereafter the official opening of the EBU deafblind conference will take place after lunch. It is also possible to have a programme in the evening that day and the following, if  necessary.

 

Tiina Nummi-Södergren noted that in her experience from EBU’s own conferences , working out resolutions took time and demanded a working party, which only had this as their task.

 

Depending on the language understanding EBU have at times chosen plenary sessions and not workshops. It also takes time to end plenary sessions and move to another room, when you are a large group. The disadvantage of plenary sesions is that less will have the possibility to speak compared to workshops, which proposes that more can discuss specific issues. An option is also to offer workshops and plenary sessions at the same time.

 

Serguei Sirotkine thought that Tiina Nummi-Södergren had a good statement and the deafblind commission had discussed the issue at their meeting in Rome. They realised that plenary sessions will mean solving many practical problems. On the other hand, it would also mean reducing the talks. The programme draft which has been made will not give us sufficient time and therefore Serguei Sirotkine suggested that the conference also continued in the morning of the 20th of October and thereby postponing the excursion until the afternoon. Furthermore an evening programme could be scheduled either the 18th or 19th of October. An evening programme could be used for working on the resolutions. This would mean that the resolution committee will be working in the evening and others with interest are also welcome. The other participants can join social gatherings in the evening. In the case that we should reduce the number of talks, we should instead make the contents wider.

 

Stig Ohlson apologised for interfering in the discussion. The experience from the world conference in New Zealand showed that one should not plan a too tight schedule. There will definetely be language problems and participants from the Eastern part of Europe will only bring one interpreter, which means that they cannot manage to paticipate in an evening programme. The evenings are good for creating contacts to other deafblind people. Using the morning of the 20th of October for a summary of resolutions sounds good.

Stig Ohlson recommended to look at the conference programme from New Zealand and get ideas from this.

 

The Committee agreed to expend the deafblind conference until the morning of the 20th of October and thereafter arrange an excursion in the afternoon the same day.

 

The Committee discussed advantages and disadvantages by the two conference types. The advantage with workshops is meeting other deafblind with the same interest and thereby having the opportunity to build up a network. The disadvantage is that there are language problems and the question is how much the individual can participate in. Under all circumstances resolutions are important to work out.

 

The Committee recommended the deafblindcommission to work towards a conference type that takes into consideration that deafblind people shall have the possibility to establish personal contacts for the benefit of the work in each home country and to strenghten the group spirit among deafblind people in Europe.

Furthermore it was recommended to point out a resolutionscommittee.

 

Serguei Sirotkine said that he would look through the conference programme from the world conference and look at the possibility of having talks in the morning and workshops in the afternoon.

 

Stig Ohlson suggested that a resolutions committee be established, which could be responsible for working out resolutions. In October 2003 the work regarding the FN convention of the human rights of people with disabilities will have come far. The working party is meeting in the summer 2003 and at that time they will most likely have a draft ready. The main organizations involved in the work are WFD, WBU, WFDB, and others also have a draft reasy. It would be good if the deafblindconference raised this issue in a resolution. In approx. three years the Convention will be finished.

 

Serguei Sirotkine was satisfied with the exchange of opinions in the Committee regarding the conference forms, and thought that more discussion could be done via e-mail.

 

Hereafter Serguei Sirotkine wished to discuss his suggestion for lecturers and selection of themes. A list has been sent to the Committee. Several answers on e-mail has been received.Regarding the first theme about the basic needs of deafblind people in modern society, two suggestions have been received. Geir Jensen has suggested Ove Bejsnap as a lecturer at this theme. Ove Bejsnap undertook this task. Serguei Sirotkine concluded that Ove Bejsnap talks on this theme.

 

Thereafter Geir Jensen was suggested as a lecturer on the theme deafblind and legislation, and he expressed that he would take the task upon himself.

It should be specifically stated how wide the issue should be treated. Serguei Sirotkine wished that Geir Jensen should talk about legislation in Europe, but use Norway as a good example.

 

Ove Bejsnap raised the question whether the theme “legislation” would give us a useful benefit as legislation does not solve problems for deafblind people in Europe. The Nordic countries have for example different legislation in the area, and a greater difference in the legislation in the rest of Europe.

 

Stig Ohlson thought that under this theme, one could take the FN convention of the human rights of people with disabilities into account. It will be an international law with high objectives. This can be used as a comparison to the legislation in each country.

 

Tiina Nummi-Södergren found the theme legislation interesting and it could be discussed both in plenary sessions and in workshops. You could discuss legislation regarding the status of sign language and the status of braille. She also recommended to work in discussions and comparisons of the FN convention of the human rights of people with disabilities with national legislations.

 

Serguei Sirotkine thanked for the comments and agreed to the suggestion of working in the material on the FN convention of the human rights of people with disabilities.

 

The theme of rights of deafblind people and obligations of the state could also have legislation as a sub-theme. Bengt Lindqvist was suggested as a lecturer.

 

Stig Ohlson informed that Bengt Lindqvist is difficult to reach. He retires in 2003 which means he has time. If he is not available, Kikki Nordstrøm or Lisa Kaupinen could be asked.

Serguei Sirotkine will investigate this.

 

If neither Bengt Lindqvist or the other persons were available for attendance, it was agreed that Geir Jensen in his talk would work both themes in.

The talk should last approx. 30 min.

 

As time was short, it was decided only to discuss the main themes at this meeting and discuss sub-themes by e-mail.

 

The third main theme will be special disability problems which deafblind have in modern society. Serguei Sirotkine has suggested Stig Ohlson for this. Stig Ohlson had previously answered that he unfortunately was engaged at that time.

Stig Ohlson wanted to know when the manuscript should be sent? If he could wait until August, he would undertake the task. Serguei Sirotkine answered that it was okay to send the manuscript by August 2003. Hereafter Stig Ohlson could inform that he would undertake the task and thanked for the trust.

Serguei Sirotkine thanked for this.

 

The fourth theme Serguei Sirotkine thought could be information technology. The deafblindcommision had suggested Angela Pimpenella as a lecturer. She had replied that she would like to undertake the task, but were only able to talk regarding the situation in Italy. Serguei Sirotkine wished a wider perspective on the theme. Stig Ohlson recommended Peter Van Houtte from Belgium or Linda Eriksson from Sweden. Serguei Sirotkine could inform that Petr Van Houtte has answered that he would like to talk on personal assistance for deafblind people from the state.

 

The discussion ended and Serguei Sirotkine thanked for the comments from the Committee. Ove Bejsnap asked Serguei Sirotkine to give greetings to the members of the deafblindcommission.

 

Stig Ohlson asked if he could take a picture of the Committee and put on the homepage of WFDB. This was accepted.

 

Ove Bejsnap shortly mentioned that the EDBU congress will consist of an official opening, hereafter a discussion of the constitution and the actual general assembly will be the 22nd of October 2003.

The interim board of EDBU has, on their meeting, pointed to Stig Ohlson as a first priority as a suggestion for chairperson for the general assembly. We have approached Stig Ohlson and he has informed that he will undertake the task if the participants elect him.

 

The item was hereby finished.

 

Item 6 - Any other business

Ove Bejsnap thanked Tiina Nummi-Södergren for planning the meeting at aAlmåsa with a very fine service. Furthermore the Committee members were thanked for their effort.

 

The observers thanked for the possibility to attend the meeting.

 

Item 7 - Next meeting

The next meeting in the Committee was suggested to be Saturday the 29th- Sunday the 30th of March 2003 at Fuglsangcentret in Fredericia. (After the meeting Serguei Sirotkine informed Ilse Bellamy that he preferred a meeting one week prior or two weeks after the suggested date)

 

Ove Bejsnap closed the meeting.